Bodywork & Cosmetic Modifications — civicwagon.com

Wagon specific floor mats ?

mvm — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:23:21 +0000

:? Does anyone know if Honda has a Wagon specific floor mat ? If so does anyone have a picture of one in blue ?

(EE/EY/EF) (98 Cents)Seat fold down knobs

keith750 — Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:36:05 +0000

so i know we all hate the tabs we have and how they always break off and that honda wants way too much money for a lil piece of plastic :evil: soo... i since my tabs were both broken i decided to think of an alternative. so i thought why not use a cabinet knob, so i went to the home depot and found some knobs for 98 cents, they are black, and screwed right on. they also dont stick out as far and are just about flush with the seat, so they wont catch at all when you fold the seat down. so here is the product/part number:

Home Depot
Liberty Hardware - Hammercraft Collection
P94500C-BL-C
# 5710

I thought I would share this with everyone, hope this helps some of you out.

1989 wagon trunk hatch area masurmenrs

racepak — Sun, 21 Jul 2024 04:14:20 +0000

Hello everyone anyone know which honda book has the 1989 wagon trunk hatch area masurmenrs .thanks alot

my car was rear ended and the trunk dosnt sit well

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Roof rack options

negativearth — Fri, 12 Feb 2021 19:13:37 +0000

My wagon has a bare roof and I've been on the hunt for a roof rack to carry a couple bikes. Finding an affordable new rack that isn't the suction cup type has proved to be a challenge. I came across this old JDM rack on eBay, I'm curious if it's really "rare" and worth what the seller's asking, and also what the relative carrying capacity might be if anyone knows. I don't want to punch holes in my roof for a rack that isn't worth it either.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/88-91-Honda-Civic-Sedan-Hatch-Wagon-Accessory-Roof-Rack-EF-OEM-JDM-Ultra-Rare/324464825938?hash=item4b8b9c5652:g:pV8AAOSwIFhf2D2J

No manufacturers list a rack for our cars anymore, as far as I can find. It looks like I could piece together a new permanently installed Yakima, but that gets expensive real fast. I feel like maybe one of these clamp on SportRack brand ones fit even though it doesn't list wagons, they keep coming up under universal rack searches and the mounting style seems pretty straightforward. The site has no specs/measurements though. I emailed the company but haven't gotten any response.

https://www.sportrack.com/product-category/roof-racks/

Feedback appreciated

Rust repair - rockers and quarters

negativearth — Fri, 12 Jan 2024 22:28:39 +0000

Searched for awhile and didn't see much about this. My rockers are real crunchy underneath the plastic and I have the typical rear fender edge rot. Obviously no replacement panels exist, wondering if anyone had tried using most of the sedan panels, cutting off parts at the edges that aren't compatible. I'm kinda into the idea of replacing the plastic panel with smooth metal rockers like on the sedan, given that they are long enough. As far as the quarters go, maybe they are relatively the same fender line and shape as the sedan and one could use all but the bit by the taillight. I did resto work on several Beetles at a shop several years ago and those panels never quite fit right and always had to be modded around the edges to work with the car, which is what got my gears turning.

Quarter:

https://www.noramstore.com/i-26894084-honda-civic-88-91-lower-quarter-panel-4-door-passenger-side.html?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA44OtBhAOEiwAj4gpOYkzxZY0rFbRdGlSgmddWzzZjaXUI9e39-HONaFNRwuhFIH57NGN9BoCAtAQAvD_BwE

Rocker:

https://www.noramstore.com/i-31643204-88-91-honda-civic-sedan-rocker-panel-drivers-side.html?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA44OtBhAOEiwAj4gpOWRZ2E2VyU8bXvq6BNThGWgOdLYWqOrVUI681Hxzz4nYBj5m-lGmnBoCdQYQAvD_BwE

wagon windows

racepak — Thu, 20 Apr 2023 09:07:34 +0000

HELLO everyone, i have a quick question about 89

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wagon windows, i noticed that my rear windows has special bolts, do the front windows has these bolts too? thanks

Seat Pan Swap

joshepete — Mon, 12 Dec 2022 22:18:32 +0000

Upon trying to fix my janky seats. I learned that they are (probably) 90s Civic seats shoddily mounted into my 89 Civic. The seat pan is the kind that has the side mounts, not the original bottom mounts. I have an extra set of original seat sliders, but because my seats' pan are side mount, my brackets are no use. Does anyone have advice, or know where I could look for the right kind of pan?

Apparently if I can get a new pan, I could probably keep my old seats, but just swap pans, which is ideal for me. Should I just look for any old seat pan from my era of Civic at a junkyard? I'd prefer to not have to pay an arm and a leg for new non-Honda looking seats.

Thanks!

Ek4/ek9 foglight retrofit

Boboblaster — Fri, 21 Oct 2022 23:08:19 +0000

Ek 4door,ek4/ek9 foglight retrofit

I’ve seen a lot of these done on ppls builds but haven’t seen a write up on how they made it possible, so let me do some of the hard work for y’all today. This how to use ek4/ek9, ek 4door fog light kits and fit them to work on a 90-91 wagon usdm bumper (I believe this will work for the 88-89 bumper but can’t promise you that).

These fog lights are by no means a plug and play system and ⚠️does require you to cut away two small 3x4in sections out of the front metal fascia/rad support. If your not willing to cut a little of your support out these light will not fit and arent the set up for you. The problem is they are about 2 inch to deep and hit behind the bumper so you need to make the clearance for it to work. You will also need to remake the top brackets so some metal work is needed but not overly complicated.

Please remember by no means am I a professional car builder or manufacturer and any idiot with time and patience can do this, also by no means am I saying this is the only way or THE way it has to be done but this is the way I’ve achieve my out come and hopefully this helps you have a positive one too or at least give you some inspiration to do something similar. That being said let get started here what tools you’ll end up needing.

Tools

Saw all or metal cut off wheel
razor blade
screw drivers
10mm socket
file or sandpaper
paint & primer
sheet metal

Here what I installed

So I ordered this “aftermarket” stock light recreate of ek foglight kit in the thoughts of I’d mess around with them if they fit really nice and easy I’d keep them if not they could be returned in 30day, thanks you Jeff bezos lol. I also was expecting very poor quality and was very mistaken when they arrived. The lens feel almost like glass and feel very solid my only complaint is the ones I got have a h1 light that looks to be wired to a universal two prong harness plug so replacing this bulb down the line may be a little hassle but not the worse thing. I’m sure if you find a real official Honda set of these fog lights they come with just a normal bulb clip. The plus side of this kit is it comes with brackets (top&bottom) and a full pre-made wiring harness with relays and clips all solder, I ended up cutting my harness up a little to extend the harness to fit my wire tuck route and ocd needs lol. You will need to take the top brackets and use them as a template to make your new top brackets and you can repurpose the bottom brackets.

I used the original top ek brackets (black brackets pictured) to make a paper template of where the bolt/hook point and the side set screw mount too, then ended up extending the front of it about 2.5inches (20g raw steel bracket pictured).

You can see the originally ek bracket mounts to the back where I’ve made mine come forward for it to slide in between the bumper and foam pad. I added that small kink in the front arm to make the bracket sit more flush and bring that bolt/hook point even with the bumper. You can slide the brackets in between the foam keep semi in placed while you try to mock up your final the angle and fitment. Once I was happy with the placement and fitment you gotta repeat again for the other side. Of course prime and paint your raw brackets once your pleased with them so they don’t rust (or make them from aluminum).

I ended up riveting all the brackets straight to the bumper so the lights ends up hooking into the top and hooking to the bottom lip in the grill. The side set screw is what fully secures the light to the top bracket. I ended up repurposing the bottom bracket by grinding away the bottom so that in could fit into the space of the bottom lip of the bumper in order to help add support to the grill hook point. Note: By no means do you have to use the bottom bracket since the bumper grill lip is used as the bottom hook point this is just my ocd, overkill mentality engineering. Not using the lower bracket will delete the two front exposed rivet or screw mounts.

The rivets can be easily painted over and hidden. My front lip covers the bottom bracket rivets in the front so I’m worried about them being in the front and opt for the support.

Now the hardest/scary part of this build……. Cutting the front fascia/rad support. You’ll have to remove and later relocated you horns. ⚠️Warning if you are clumsy, have no saws all control or cutting experience, or just don’t trust yourself! Nows the time to take out your radiator so you don’t run the risk of cutting into it!

Once you have everything clear out from behind and in front of where your going to cut you can place the bumper back on to mark where you’re hole line up in the front. You can technically split the upper support but to me it was easier just to cut the bottom straight out. The holes are roughly 3x4in (marked in yellow lines on photo). Please note too that the bottom corner section that you’ll cut is double layered so you will have to cut through both sections. Also be aware to not cut too deep and end up cutting into the 3 bolts that mount the tow hooks to the frame (just speaking from experience 🤦🏻‍♂️)

Make sure to prime and paint any cute areas of the front fascia so there is not exposed metal or rust points. Now the hard parts done you can slide the bumper on with the lights mounted now and see how well you did. You then use the provided wiring harness that comes with the kit to wire up and slide the button into a free slot. You will also have to extend you horn harness depending on where you relocated your horns and if they still can be connected as is.

Hope this was helpful or helped inspired an idea you had cooking. If anyone has any questions I’ll definitely try to answer what I can when I see them come in. Maybe one day soon I’ll get around to making a YouTube channel and show off a video version of this process but for now hope you enjoyed this write up and maybe it’s good enough to get pinned. Good luck and happy building!

Please post and show off your ek foglight or any light builds that this post may have helped inspire and push you to try!

Can anyone ID the fenders that were installed on this wagon?

debris — Tue, 12 Jan 2021 08:36:52 +0000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DfccOnbaBk

Window run channel

cya02 — Sun, 31 Aug 2014 09:44:18 +0000

Hey guys! So, i need to replace my drivers side run channel. Now if i were to find one on another car, how would remove it? Can i just pull it off? Or is it bolted in and have to remove the door panel and window? Thanks

Chassis, Bodywork & Interior Quicklinks

greenteagod — Sun, 15 May 2022 09:38:06 +0000

Repost since the OG thread can't be edited.

Here is a list of threads with commonly requested information. Feel free to reply with a link to a thread that you think should be included.

General:

Lights and Bulbs the definitive Collection

Bulb Information... again

Paint Names & Codes

Interior:

Interior L.E.D Dome Light

Make Fake Headunit Faceplate

Re-Cover Headliner (and share yours!)

Install Del-Sol Seats

Install DB2 Armrest

Rear Seat Folding Mod

Make your old seats look like new

Install Power Windows and Door Locks

Install Power Windows and Door Locks... again

Install DA Seats

Remove and Replace Hatch Struts

Install DA Maplight

Remove and Reinstall Rear Tailgate Lock Assembly

Remove and Replace Vent Covers

Homemade Cargo Cover... again

Rear Window Blinds

Rear Window Blinds... again

Rear Window Blinds... again... again

Underseat Storage Tray

Floor Mats

Seat cover/foam replacement / year swap

Exterior & Chassis:

Remove, Recondition and Reinstall Door Visors

Install Rear Foglights

Install Bracket-free JDM Foglights

Install JDM Bullbar

Install JDM Bullbar... again

Paint Tail Lights Red

Make Custom Front License Plate Relocator

Remove door trim and clips without breakage

Remove Tailgate and Replace Tailgate Hinges

Headlight and Housing Restoration

Remove Fenders and Front Bumper

Paint Corners Amber

Six Steps To Make Your Car Shine

Remove Doors

Remove Front Bumper

Build Metal Fender Flares

Install JDM/EDM Side Markers (Indicators)

Window Wiper Sizes

Corner Lights

Install Power Mirrors

EE Mirrors 101

Rear Cross Member Interchangeability

JDM/EDM Roof Rack Information

Passenger mirror

negativearth — Mon, 01 Feb 2021 20:58:02 +0000

I recently got a cherry ‘91 RT, but I can’t get over how it doesn’t have a passenger mirror. It’s been too many years since I’ve had a vehicle without one I guess. I looked on eBay and there’s plenty of manual ones listed for sedans and hatches but nothing comes up as wagon specific. Will the hatch or sedan mirrors fit?

89 vs 90 wagon fenders?

lindseyf — Mon, 18 Jan 2021 03:39:48 +0000

are the fenders on 89 wagons the same dimensions as the 90 fenders? I've heard the corner lights are different... looking to buy clean fenders for my 89 wagon and they're coming off a 90 wagon, will they fit correctly?

Rear hatch hinges

bt-dub — Mon, 07 Aug 2017 17:07:42 +0000

Hey everyone. Does anyone know where I can get replacement hinges for the rear hatch? One of mine is broken

Bumper deformed

Sebunderworld — Sat, 30 May 2020 07:34:04 +0000

Hello everybody. Sorry for my english i,m frenchie ?

i don’t find a post for deformed bumper

i have this problem on all my wagon , can you help me Please?

have you the solution?

thanks

Rear sway bar

buddhawagon — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 00:13:52 +0000

Any ideas on mounting a rear sway bar from a DA teg or ef si?

Custom cup holders and over head console for EF

stampern — Tue, 05 Feb 2019 11:45:58 +0000

Guys, I've been working on some prototypes recently since I got back into the EF game and really want a good cup holder and over head console. Wanted to see your guys opinions of these and ideas if you have any. I'm thinking about making them for all the EF models.

Gen 4 vs gen 3 seat rails

Jellybone — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 18:40:49 +0000

Has anyone tried mounting 4th gen seats in a 3rd gen wagon or vice versa? My driver seat has holes with visible foam/padding, so a pair of 4th gen CRX seats for 50$ is something I’m looking into atm. Width and rails might be different.

Windshield wiper arm stripped out

1991civicwagon — Mon, 20 Jan 2020 19:39:53 +0000

Has anyone come up with a way to remedy this problem, since Honda no longer manufactures the OEM replacement? The stem and nut are fine but the ridges inside the base of the arm are worn down, so the arm doesn't move with the motor. We put shrink tubing on the stem but I'm sure it's only a temporary fix.

I figure junkyard parts are ultimately going to have the same problem, at least eventually. I really would prefer not to use anything that will permanently fuse the arm to the stem.

Does anyone out there have a fix for this?

Thanks in advance!

rear wing

keith750 — Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:32:57 +0000

will a rear wing from a 88-91 hatch fit on a wagon, the lil duck bill looking thing that comes off the upper hatch is the one im talking about, any help would be great, cuz if that would work, i can get one for free.

Wiper delete?

Wagoman209 — Fri, 22 Mar 2019 23:15:52 +0000

Hey guys when I bought my wagon the rear wiper was already deleted leaving a hole in my back hatch right under the glass on the metal part of the body. I have looked online and see that there are delete plugs for 88-2000 Civics but it does not specify if it will work for my wagon. I know this has been gone over before but the last post I can see was from years ago. Does anyone know of a wiper delete that will fit or something else that would fit such as an antenna delete plug from a different car? The one on my Integra antenna looked like it would almost fit the hole but I don't have it to check anymore. Thanks for any help in advance. I hope this is in the right section 🙃

DA2EE seat swap...who knew it was so easy?

bam-bam — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:48:44 +0000

I decided to try and put some Integra seats in the wagon today Surprisingly, it's fairly easily done.

Use the teg inner rail, and the wagon outer. The only mod to the teg inner rail is elongating the mounting holes toward the center:

SAFETY edit: Because the seat mounting holes were enlarged I added some heavy fender washers on the retainer bolts. This one in particular, as it's the seatbelt anchor as well:

the outer (wagon) rail just requires a few simple tweaks. This dimple has to be shaved off:

and this hole doesn't line up. I just drilled a hole and installed a bolt/nut...easy

shaved the wagon plastic trim a bit to fit up:

that's about all, except I used a 1.25" spacer at the front of the inboard/teg rails, between the mount and the floor...

The auto belts are plug-n-play, everything works! The driver's seat even has adjustable lumbar support

Help identifying roof rack!!

90silverwago — Sun, 17 Feb 2019 15:10:22 +0000

I need some help from the community! I purachased this wagon a few months ago for $300! The photos that were up on Facebook marketplace made the car look great. I made arrangements to pick the car up and once I arrived I noticed that the photos were older and not how the car currently sat.... I picked it up anyways but the roof rack was taken off and now I have 8 holes in my roof. Can anyone help me identify this rack? I only have these photos but any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Cup Holder Mod

91 RT4WD — Sun, 29 Mar 2015 21:33:51 +0000

Has anybody done this cup holder mod?

That is from an ef hatchback.

All you need is a 92-95 Ford Taurus or 92-95 Mercury Sable Cup holder/Coin Holder, and an ef Center Console.
You put the cup and coin holder where the radio is and the radio where the equalizer would be on usdm center consoles. You can also cut the edm center consoles to make it fit.

This is how it looks like opened.

To make it fit where the radio is you need to take out the radio. Then you need to use a dremel to cut these corners off, there are 4.

Then you have to cut out the clip on the bottom.

Then it will slide in and the clips on the side will hold it.
These clips will hold it.

It looks great and almost like it came with the car.
I don't know how to put the radio in the center console though. I guess it will just slide in where the equalizer use to be.
I plan to do this in the future. I already got the cup holder for free from Pull and Save.

3rd Gen Facelift

JackMyst — Sat, 02 Feb 2019 19:10:16 +0000

Right so is it possible to put 4th gen wagon front end (headlight, bonnet, wings etc) on a 3rd gen wagon.

How to: Make an aftermarket shift knob fit like OEM

clsmooth — Fri, 08 Feb 2019 12:27:53 +0000

I haven't posted here in ages, and not exactly a member of any other Honda forum, but wanted this up somewhere if it helps someone else out. Sorry if this has been done before, I'm not terribly active on forums anymore...

For the past few years I've been occasionally living vicariously when it comes to Honda with my g/f's new (for her) '10 Civic sedan. I've done a bit of work on it here and there (though it's nice that it's a car that actually doesn't require a lot of work all the time) and she's also wanted to dress a few things up on it, albeit within reason (ya, I infected her with the mod bug :P ).

One of the things was the shift knob. She wanted to change it out, but wasn't interested on spending a fortune on just a shift knob either. She decided on the one she wanted and, it's a nice one, but they aren't made like they use to last I remember. I had a blue, leather Momo knob in my wagon back in the day and the set screws that came with it were pointed, so they dug right into the shift lever and never had a problem with it. Hers came with set screws that were flat, and I couldn't find any that were pointed anywhere locally.

No matter how tight I'd turn the flat set screws, the knob came loose after a while. I wanted to do something about it cause I didn't want the knob coming off on her, especially in an emergency situation. So here's what I did to make an aftermarket shift knob fit like OEM.

First, found a used, crappy-looking knob.

As you can see, scored one for free. Didn't wanna use a new knob or even a good one cause I hacked it up for the treads within:
(PS, turns out the OEM knob on the 8th gen has solid hunk of metal just under the shift pattern at the top)

Hacked and grinded away the knob until the tube of threads fit up into the aftermarket knob and let the JB Weld dry. I masked off the knob and shift boot clip to keep em clean.

And voila, and aftermarket knob that threads on like OEM.

I did this for her about a year ago and it's been a non-issue since. I should really take an interior pic one day...

Heater box leak leak? Water passenger floor when it rains

1991civicwagon — Sun, 13 Jan 2019 14:51:50 +0000

Water puddles on right side below glove box after a rain. Not a huge amount, but enough.

So far, pulled the wipers, the large plastic cover and the rubber dam.
Cleaned out the area where water runs down the windshield and is supposed to exit the car below.
Turns out a rat had been living in there at some point (I've been breathing that in for 3 years? Disgusting)
Tried using #12 coated electrical wire to clear the drain but not sure I accomplished it.
Shouldn't have started this project with rain imminent as had to quit and tarp it.

Question:
Can't tell, where could the water be getting in? This model Honda doesn't have the heater box intake open to the engine (a common cause in other models) so how can water get down there as there is a black plastic cover (afraid to remove for fear of breaking it) over the access.
Also, any idea where I get replacements for the little black plastic rivets and caps I've broke so far?

Thanks for your advice!

SiR front on Wagon

SCPOW — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 09:02:23 +0000

Hey guys,

So I wrecked my beloved 91' Wagon yesterday. It looks like I'll need to replace my radiator support, right head light, fender and hood. I'm debating about going JDM/SiR front since I need to replace all those things anyways. Does the JDM/SiR front end bolt directly? I haven't seen any documentations on this notifications searching on Google. I do see there has been a few Wagons that has had this done.

Any advice, tips, suggestions would be appreciated!

Where to Get WAGON Specific Hatch/Tailgate Shocks/Struts?

B18C5-EH2 — Fri, 16 May 2008 07:48:49 +0000

I have now ordered THREE different sets of "wagon" hatch shocks and have all been too long. Each time I ordered I specified WAGON or "5 door hatchback" and every time I've gotten the same, too long shocks.

My current wagon has some nice aftermarket ones on it that have part numbers "4909 1109" on them, but the actual part numbers on the bags for the shocks are compltely different.

I'm looking to spend no more than $26-$30.00 per shock since i know the ones I've been getting cost that much, but don't fit.

I'm looking for someone with first-hand experience with this, since obviously i can do my own online search and order "wagon" shocks once again only to be screwed for a fourth time.

Thanks in advance!!!

RT4WD shift boot options

superhatch — Mon, 03 Dec 2018 13:51:47 +0000

I did an AT to MT conversion and the donor car for the MT swap had a crown royal bag as the shift boot. I've been trying to find options for replacement but it looks like our boot is different than the Si boot, at least in part #.

SI 83414-SH3-951ZA
RT 83414-SH5-A00

The drawings of the two on Majestic look similar, so I'm wondering if an Si boot will work? Anyone have any experience?