So, I've got a pretty decent update.
First off... my motor died. So I bought a rebuilt HF motor for 60 bucks and dropped it in. Slow, but pretty freaking good gas mileage. Got 440 miles on a single tank.
how did you get the HF motor to fit? I can't get the headers to go on, did you use the headers from the HF motor?
meant this to be a PM lol
Congratulations :P
I love the car, your opinions and the gal. Thanks for all the pics even if it's a utility vehicle sometimes..
No problem! Thanks for the compliments, that really means a lot to me. Yeah, it's a utility vehicle, it just doesn't have to be used like one all the time.
So, I've got a pretty decent update.
First off... my motor died. So I bought a rebuilt HF motor for 60 bucks and dropped it in. Slow, but pretty freaking good gas mileage. Got 440 miles on a single tank.
how did you get the HF motor to fit? I can't get the headers to go on, did you use the headers from the HF motor?
meant this to be a PM lol
It's all good.
Uhm, I'm using the header from my D15B2. One day though, I'm going to swap it for a y7 header. I'm making my car as eco friendly/quiet as possible. Hush hush is what I'm going for.
The motor should fit right in on your factory stuffs. Just pull and drop in. Just remember if your doing this swap... it's an 8 valve motor, and it's slow as balls. It'll rock 4k down the highway, but you'll lose all that going up hills. I blew my HF motor driving in the mountains of Georgia (Hiawassee). It doesn't like the strain. Just be careful on this swap. Also, if your motor is 88-89, I think you have the impressions on your pistons for 16 valves, but if you got a 90-91 HF motor, you're screwed if you ever want a head swap to a 16 valve. Just the little things you realize while doing a head gasket.
All in all.... don't do this swap unless you live on flat ground or in the city. The gas mileage is great in the city, but rocking the interstate speeds craps out your mileage. HF's aren't meant to run that high in rpms... (I'm using the DX tranny). Hope this helps.
I was about to comment, but then noticed you were a bigot who seems not only ok with, but proud of, denying people civil rights. I wasn't even going to say -this- but then noticed you specifically posted a picture of your sticker.
Bigot: A person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats members of a specific group with hatred and intolerance.
So instead of a nice comment about your car. I'll just tell you to fuck off instead.
I was about to comment, but then noticed you were a bigot who seems not only ok with, but proud of, denying people civil rights. I wasn't even going to say -this- but then noticed you specifically posted a picture of your sticker.
Bigot: A person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats members of a specific group with hatred and intolerance.
So instead of a nice comment about your car. I'll just tell you to fuck off instead.
Marriage (Defined by the New Oxford American Dictionary): "A formal union of a man and a woman, typically recognized by law, by which they become husband and wife."
I never once said they cannot have their own social union, but separate them from my marriage. I am not forcibly removing their civil rights, social freedoms, or equalities. But as they are different from us (heterosexuals) in their sexual orientation and definition of a family, so should their social union be. I am not against them having a similar long-term relationship, but what they have, is NOT marriage.
We all have our thoughts, views, and opinions. I let you voice yours, which you've obviously done, so let me share mine. There's no need to act immature. I have strong views, and you have strong counter opposing views. By you attacking me for mine, this AUTOMATICALLY makes you the same as me. Guilty of "bigotry".
Are we not all then considered bigots? Do you not feel that often your opinions are correct over someone else's? If you've ever argued your side of something (Which you have, and just did)... that makes you a bigot. You also told me to "fuck off", which potentially refers to intolerance of my views/beliefs/opinions. In fact, according to Etymology, the phrase "fuck off" itself refers to an expression of disagreement. So once again... you are intolerantly disagreeing with my views... making you a bigot. So, I thought you might need this too.
Bigot: A person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats members of a specific group with hatred and intolerance.
Sheesh, I thought this was all in good fun and superhatch said FU.
If you have any more bumper stickers send me one! I'd love to put it on my rt4wd before I drive up to WI for Thanksgiving. Maybe I can stop by superhatch's place too? :idea:
JK
True. I am bigoted towards bigots. I will 100% exclude people who first decide to exclude other people based on their race, religion, sexuality, or creed.
If you do not exclude other people, I will not exclude you. You on the other hand have made the blatant determination to exclude not just another person, but an entire group of people based solely on their sexuality and in doing so are limiting their rights. Marriage today is defined by the state, not by religion. You can be legally married at the courthouse and never set foot in a church, or have anything to do with any religion. That makes this an issue of the state, and not of the church or any religion. Because of this fact you are withholding civil rights from people based on their sexuality. In my mind this makes you no different than a racist, a misogynist, or a bigot on any level.
You might feel tempted to argue that the state's laws are based in religion. While this might be true currently, this should not ever dictate law. This country was founded to specifically escape the Crown's religious laws limiting how another person worships. To now use any specific religion to create laws that determine who a person can and can not marry is an abomination of the charter of this country.
While you came back with some dribble about how you still approve of civil union, I'll note you don't have a bumper sticker saying you would include homosexuals in that regard. You only put on a bumper sticker saying how you exclude them. I would also add that the bond of marriage that you obviously hold in high regard has been denigrated to near irrelevance. The irony being that the same institution that you want to keep sacred has been destroyed from within (i.e. by heterosexuals).
I would also like to point out that the majority of 18-29 year olds support same sex marriage, as noted in the above study. This is the case in all but 12 states, oddly all in the south/south east. What this means for you is that time is not on your side. In the coming decade same sex marriage will be a reality, and you will be the minority (based on your age, you are already the minority). The only thing holding these laws back are old conservative white men...that's who you're standing with.
So again, based on your outdated, minority, soon to be a relic bigotry...Fuck you.
Superhatch why are you so angry? If all you have to say is true then let it be your opinion. Sethwalters didn't call you out by putting a bumper sticker on his car. You made it personal.
Oh... might want to check your facts also. When voted on last in CA nine out of ten African Americans and nearly as many Latino's voted against same-sex marriage. Its not just old white men. But I do agree with you, in the coming generations it will be legalized. We are headed toward a North American Europe and boy what great things do we have to look forward to if that's the case! :roll:
Had he not specifically posted a pic of the sticker by itself, I would have not even mentioned it. To me, that sticker on his car is him driving around with a middle finger out to everyone who doesn't think like him. I'm not a huge fan of bumper stickers in general since they are so passive aggressive. I'm not one to let bigotry stand, so when he made a point to post that pic, I made a point to let him know that there are people our there vehemently opposed to his views who are not going to sit there and take it. When you put that sticker on your car you better understand that you have just made your opinion personal to a lot of people.
Yes, it's not all conservative old white men. It's conservative old people in general. The conservative old white men just make the laws.
Tell me now... if placing that sticker on the bumper is a middle finger to anyone reading it, how is a rainbow gay pride sticker any different, or a coexist sticker, or an obama sticker or a mccain sticker? I don't see a difference. I'm pretty sure he didn't need you telling him people are opposed to his belief, just like you don't need someone telling you he is opposed to yours.
i like this wagon i got the same wheels but there not on my wagon yet. whats the deal with the brown monster stuffed animal thing? i see them in alot of honda pictures.
Superhatch and olsonski have a point. Bumpderstickers can be passive and offensive. I look at them as an opinion and either I can agree or disagree and move on. Though my values make me agree with the sticker I wouldn't wear one because I want to deal with people on a personal level, not passive agressive but active peaceful. Even if I disagree with them.
Lookin nice! Green rims were neat & different, but I think I like them black better. Now all you need is a roof rack! Your yard looks kinda like mine - full of Hondas!! I have an 87' CRX Si, 2000 Civic Si, 97' CRV, and of course the all mighty wagon! Enjoy your speaker pods dude!!
baha I'm 21 and what does straight edge have to do with gay marriage? "absolutely nothing" Nice try tho. I don't see why you have the need to try and debate everyone's beliefs.
I was just stating an opinion that I do like the bumper sticker just as you guys are stating you don't. This is not a debate thread so don't try to debate with me. Mind your own because no one is pushing any beliefs on you.
I know you can and probably will quote one line out of this and say something that totally disregards anything I just said but that's what the off topic thread is for! If you have the need to debate gay marriage make a tread about it.
I know you can and probably will quote one line out of this and say something that totally disregards anything I just said but that's what the off topic thread is for! If you have the need to debate gay marriage make a tread about it.
I'd love to keep fighting with you all, but unfortunately, we both see each other as being willfully blind. Nothing good is going to come from people bickering and complaining. So from now on, if you don't like my sticker, I kindly ask you to shut up. I will continue to take pictures of things I like about my car, and you can continue to either:
A) Like them and tell me so Dislike them and keep your mouth shut (this includes not commenting at all)
C) Telling me you don't like it
There shouldn't be anyone bashing anyone else. Like I've said before, and will say again...
The treatment you are showing me because of my beliefs is practically the same that you "feel" I treat others.
So, just put a smile on, kindly move on, and try not to get upset over something someone believes.
.... And if you still have a problem with my bumper sticker... I don't care.
So, have a nice day. Feel free to stop looking at my comments, thread, or anything else I have.
Maybe I should change my thread name to include: Radical Christian Bigot Who's Hates Everyone Who's Different from Him
Hmm...
Well anyways, thanks for commenting on my thread. Those who support, and those who so crassly protest.
IN OTHER NEWS
I got my speaker pods in from simplyhonda (Thanks Man)
I also won the tall fairing for my yakima roof rack that I purchased today as well.
So two more things to update.
Also, my brother is the proud new owner of a 3rd gen civic wagon.
He really likes talking junk about how his seats recline and mine don't... douche.
He's got the 84-87 Si motor in it and it's been converted to MPFI.
So, I'm thinking of getting some new rims for the wagon. What do you all suggest?
I'm thinking of some XXR513's, DR20's, Slips. On the cheaper side, I was looking at getting some bottle caps. Not sure yet... The green is nice, just ready for some new ones.
I like the green on your car, reminds me of my cousins EP3. He had a black EP with lime green rims that I sprayed for him. Your wagon looks sick though and congrats on the marriage/engagement. I got sidetracked, on which one it is, by all this commotion about your sticker. Congrats though! Oh and I think the DR20s would look nice if you got rid of the green ones.
I like the green on your car, reminds me of my cousins EP3. He had a black EP with lime green rims that I sprayed for him. Your wagon looks sick though and congrats on the marriage/engagement. I got sidetracked, on which one it is, by all this commotion about your sticker. Congrats though! Oh and I think the DR20s would look nice if you got rid of the green ones.
Hey thanks for all the compliments and congrats. I appreciate them. Yeah, it was quite a commotion. And yeah, DR20's would look good too.
How do the ebay coilover sleeves ride? I want to get some but don't really want to sacrifice the nice ride my wagon has. I'm using Skunk2 struts with Tein lowering springs and the ride is perfect, I just want to be able to adjust my ride sometimes.
How do the ebay coilover sleeves ride? I want to get some but don't really want to sacrifice the nice ride my wagon has. I'm using Skunk2 struts with Tein lowering springs and the ride is perfect, I just want to be able to adjust my ride sometimes.
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how did you get the HF motor to fit? I can't get the headers to go on, did you use the headers from the HF motor?
meant this to be a PM lol
No problem! Thanks for the compliments, that really means a lot to me. Yeah, it's a utility vehicle, it just doesn't have to be used like one all the time.
It's all good.
Uhm, I'm using the header from my D15B2. One day though, I'm going to swap it for a y7 header. I'm making my car as eco friendly/quiet as possible. Hush hush is what I'm going for.
The motor should fit right in on your factory stuffs. Just pull and drop in. Just remember if your doing this swap... it's an 8 valve motor, and it's slow as balls. It'll rock 4k down the highway, but you'll lose all that going up hills. I blew my HF motor driving in the mountains of Georgia (Hiawassee). It doesn't like the strain. Just be careful on this swap. Also, if your motor is 88-89, I think you have the impressions on your pistons for 16 valves, but if you got a 90-91 HF motor, you're screwed if you ever want a head swap to a 16 valve. Just the little things you realize while doing a head gasket.
All in all.... don't do this swap unless you live on flat ground or in the city. The gas mileage is great in the city, but rocking the interstate speeds craps out your mileage. HF's aren't meant to run that high in rpms... (I'm using the DX tranny). Hope this helps.
Congrats on the engagement and I'm likin' the build, good luck!
with thoes coils where do the black rings in the bags go?
Bigot: A person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats members of a specific group with hatred and intolerance.
So instead of a nice comment about your car. I'll just tell you to fuck off instead.
Marriage (Defined by the New Oxford American Dictionary): "A formal union of a man and a woman, typically recognized by law, by which they become husband and wife."
I never once said they cannot have their own social union, but separate them from my marriage. I am not forcibly removing their civil rights, social freedoms, or equalities. But as they are different from us (heterosexuals) in their sexual orientation and definition of a family, so should their social union be. I am not against them having a similar long-term relationship, but what they have, is NOT marriage.
We all have our thoughts, views, and opinions. I let you voice yours, which you've obviously done, so let me share mine. There's no need to act immature. I have strong views, and you have strong counter opposing views. By you attacking me for mine, this AUTOMATICALLY makes you the same as me. Guilty of "bigotry".
Are we not all then considered bigots? Do you not feel that often your opinions are correct over someone else's? If you've ever argued your side of something (Which you have, and just did)... that makes you a bigot. You also told me to "fuck off", which potentially refers to intolerance of my views/beliefs/opinions. In fact, according to Etymology, the phrase "fuck off" itself refers to an expression of disagreement. So once again... you are intolerantly disagreeing with my views... making you a bigot. So, I thought you might need this too.
Bigot: A person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats members of a specific group with hatred and intolerance.
Have a nice day, and yes, I do love you.
lol.
If you have any more bumper stickers send me one! I'd love to put it on my rt4wd before I drive up to WI for Thanksgiving. Maybe I can stop by superhatch's place too? :idea:
JK
If you do not exclude other people, I will not exclude you. You on the other hand have made the blatant determination to exclude not just another person, but an entire group of people based solely on their sexuality and in doing so are limiting their rights. Marriage today is defined by the state, not by religion. You can be legally married at the courthouse and never set foot in a church, or have anything to do with any religion. That makes this an issue of the state, and not of the church or any religion. Because of this fact you are withholding civil rights from people based on their sexuality. In my mind this makes you no different than a racist, a misogynist, or a bigot on any level.
You might feel tempted to argue that the state's laws are based in religion. While this might be true currently, this should not ever dictate law. This country was founded to specifically escape the Crown's religious laws limiting how another person worships. To now use any specific religion to create laws that determine who a person can and can not marry is an abomination of the charter of this country.
While you came back with some dribble about how you still approve of civil union, I'll note you don't have a bumper sticker saying you would include homosexuals in that regard. You only put on a bumper sticker saying how you exclude them. I would also add that the bond of marriage that you obviously hold in high regard has been denigrated to near irrelevance. The irony being that the same institution that you want to keep sacred has been destroyed from within (i.e. by heterosexuals).
http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/20 ... and-state/
I would also like to point out that the majority of 18-29 year olds support same sex marriage, as noted in the above study. This is the case in all but 12 states, oddly all in the south/south east. What this means for you is that time is not on your side. In the coming decade same sex marriage will be a reality, and you will be the minority (based on your age, you are already the minority). The only thing holding these laws back are old conservative white men...that's who you're standing with.
So again, based on your outdated, minority, soon to be a relic bigotry...Fuck you.
Yes, it's not all conservative old white men. It's conservative old people in general. The conservative old white men just make the laws.
Maybe that's why I don't have any bumperstickers.
keep it up bro!
lol says the 19 year old straight edge kid
If you make it a point to express your beliefs on things other than cars in this forum, you stand a chance of hearing others opinions.
I'm 100% with superhatch...
I'm surprised Americans (specifically) still give a shit about things like this.
evolve or die
I was just stating an opinion that I do like the bumper sticker just as you guys are stating you don't. This is not a debate thread so don't try to debate with me. Mind your own because no one is pushing any beliefs on you.
I know you can and probably will quote one line out of this and say something that totally disregards anything I just said but that's what the off topic thread is for! If you have the need to debate gay marriage make a tread about it.
You sure do got a purdy mouth lol
A) Like them and tell me so
C) Telling me you don't like it
There shouldn't be anyone bashing anyone else. Like I've said before, and will say again...
The treatment you are showing me because of my beliefs is practically the same that you "feel" I treat others.
So, just put a smile on, kindly move on, and try not to get upset over something someone believes.
.... And if you still have a problem with my bumper sticker... I don't care.
So, have a nice day. Feel free to stop looking at my comments, thread, or anything else I have.
Maybe I should change my thread name to include: Radical Christian Bigot Who's Hates Everyone Who's Different from Him
Hmm...
Well anyways, thanks for commenting on my thread. Those who support, and those who so crassly protest.
IN OTHER NEWS
I got my speaker pods in from simplyhonda (Thanks Man)
I also won the tall fairing for my yakima roof rack that I purchased today as well.
So two more things to update.
Also, my brother is the proud new owner of a 3rd gen civic wagon.
He really likes talking junk about how his seats recline and mine don't... douche.
He's got the 84-87 Si motor in it and it's been converted to MPFI.
Well that's all for now.
I'm thinking of some XXR513's, DR20's, Slips. On the cheaper side, I was looking at getting some bottle caps. Not sure yet... The green is nice, just ready for some new ones.
get some bottle caps... $250~ shipped from me. :P
(i guess i'm a bigot too, because i think there should be no gay marraige. being gay isn't natural and wrong).
Hey thanks for all the compliments and congrats. I appreciate them. Yeah, it was quite a commotion. And yeah, DR20's would look good too.
DO NOT GET THEM.