Fit & EE Wagon Nearly Identical in Specs - Pics
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So I've always said since the Fit was introduced that we EE wagon owners already knew how amazing such a concept plays out in real life. Little did I realize just how EXACTLY alike these cars were until I added a 2011 Fit to the fleet of Hondas at my house. I parked the 1990 wagon next to the Fit, and besides the glaringly obvious ride height difference (my wagon is admittedly slammed pretty good) the cars are eerily similar.
They are so identical, in fact, that a quick glance at the specs reveal they are .1'' difference in overall length from bumper to bumper!
1990 Civic DX wagon exterior specs:
Width: 66.1 in.
Height: 56.1 in.
Length: 161.7 in.
Curb weight: 2335 lbs. (manual)
2011 Fit Sport Specs:
Width (in) 66.7 66.7
Height (in) 60.0 60.0
Length (in) 161.6 161.6
Curb weight: 2520lbs. (manual)
1990 Civic Wagon DX interior specs - for some reason I could only find rear specs easily?
Rear hip Room: 52.0 in.
Rear head room: 38.0 in.
Rear leg room: 33.2 in.
Rear shoulder room: 53.5 in.
2011 Fit Sport interior specs:
Headroom (in, front/rear) 40.4 / 39.0
Legroom (in, front/rear) 41.3 / 34.5
Shoulder Room (in, front/rear) 52.7 / 51.3
Hiproom (in, front/rear) 51.5 / 51.3
Cargo Volume (cu ft, seat up/down) 20.6 / 57.3
Passenger Volume (cu ft) 90.8 90.8
I took some pics for fun.
Note the crazy high belt line on the Fit by comparison:
They lined up 100% even at front and rear bumpers:
Note the crazy amount of extra area the Fit has in the windshield-to-hood transition:
Yes there is a Fit hiding behind that wagon:
I didn't think it was possible to have a flatter back end that that of the EE Civic wagon, but check out how straight up and down the Fit's ass end is!
This topic isn't intended to pit the Civic wagon against the Fit. I just think it's awesome that when Honda needed a car to bring back all those Civic customers who missed a true entry level car rather than the deep $20K's Civic-turned-Accordish in spec/pricing they didn't reinvent the wheel - they brought back the EE Civic wagon and named it "FIT."
If you are a Civic wagon owner looking for a modern, stylish, sporty, and safer version of your Civic wagon then look no further than the Fit.
If you are a Fit owner looking for something cheap that will provide the exact same functionality as a Fit, then start hunting down a 1988-1991 Civic wagon.
They are the same car, just built to totally different generation standards.
They are so identical, in fact, that a quick glance at the specs reveal they are .1'' difference in overall length from bumper to bumper!
1990 Civic DX wagon exterior specs:
Width: 66.1 in.
Height: 56.1 in.
Length: 161.7 in.
Curb weight: 2335 lbs. (manual)
2011 Fit Sport Specs:
Width (in) 66.7 66.7
Height (in) 60.0 60.0
Length (in) 161.6 161.6
Curb weight: 2520lbs. (manual)
1990 Civic Wagon DX interior specs - for some reason I could only find rear specs easily?
Rear hip Room: 52.0 in.
Rear head room: 38.0 in.
Rear leg room: 33.2 in.
Rear shoulder room: 53.5 in.
2011 Fit Sport interior specs:
Headroom (in, front/rear) 40.4 / 39.0
Legroom (in, front/rear) 41.3 / 34.5
Shoulder Room (in, front/rear) 52.7 / 51.3
Hiproom (in, front/rear) 51.5 / 51.3
Cargo Volume (cu ft, seat up/down) 20.6 / 57.3
Passenger Volume (cu ft) 90.8 90.8
I took some pics for fun.
Note the crazy high belt line on the Fit by comparison:
They lined up 100% even at front and rear bumpers:
Note the crazy amount of extra area the Fit has in the windshield-to-hood transition:
Yes there is a Fit hiding behind that wagon:
I didn't think it was possible to have a flatter back end that that of the EE Civic wagon, but check out how straight up and down the Fit's ass end is!
This topic isn't intended to pit the Civic wagon against the Fit. I just think it's awesome that when Honda needed a car to bring back all those Civic customers who missed a true entry level car rather than the deep $20K's Civic-turned-Accordish in spec/pricing they didn't reinvent the wheel - they brought back the EE Civic wagon and named it "FIT."
If you are a Civic wagon owner looking for a modern, stylish, sporty, and safer version of your Civic wagon then look no further than the Fit.
If you are a Fit owner looking for something cheap that will provide the exact same functionality as a Fit, then start hunting down a 1988-1991 Civic wagon.
They are the same car, just built to totally different generation standards.
Comments
Torsion-beam in the rear, MacPherson in the front.
If I could walk into a dealership with the option of a brand new Fit vs. brand new EE Civic wagon (at the same price), the Civic would win every time. Style, interior materials, paint quality, fit & finish, suspension design, etc are all superior. These cars were built when Honda was proving they were the highest quality & best value around. The Fit shows signs of cost cutting in every regard.
Not to start a Fit VS. EE battle or anything. It's a different market today and Honda is a different company.
I think I've got a somewhat unique perspective on this since I've driven a lot of Wagons, owned two (technically one was my mom's, but I did more to it and drove it more than she did lol) and now own and drive a Fit every day.
Stock for stock the Fit absolutely murders our beloved EE wagons.
Try jacking up a Civic wagon by a rear jack point, then open and close the doors.
Notice that there is a distinct "catch" when the latch hits the striker? This is because the wagon's chassis is flexing.
Try the same with a Fit. Doors close exactly as if it's on the ground.
Why?
No matter how cost cutting Honda may be, they started making the chassis of theie cars STIFF beginning with the EP3 Si, and then on from there.
I'm not the biggest fan of Mac front struts, nor am I the biggest proponent of the rear torsion beam set up, but let me ask you something:
Haver you ever been to SCCA auto-X events and seen the old 1984-1987 Civics and CR-Xs getting overall fastest time of day results? I have in the ATL region some years ago when I used to auto-X a lot, and guess what those old-ass Civics/CR-Xs had? Solid axle rear suspension, with torsion bars up front.
The Fit is far more agile than a stock wagon. It's not fair to compare any modified wagon - including even just tossing on stickier tires - to a stock Fit.
I'm not playing favorites here, believe me, because the wagons have a special place in my heart. If I were a single guy making the same commute then the wagon I own would have been completely sufficient, but being that I'm a father, and husband, safety IS of concern to me. The fit adresses safety concerns without having to give up performance.
But the suspension is a better design on the civic. Its not even an argument. Only thing the fit has on the civic as far as handling is concerned is the chassis stiffness.
I may have missed it, but what are you going to do with the wagon?
he is going to sell it to me...